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Hey Girl hey I read the name welcome back - speaking of curves this is a
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Facebook live series that we've been doing to show support to give love to
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celebrate the small businesses in the plus-size space especially to showcase
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ways that we can support them so that they kind of make their way through like
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everything that's going on in the world right now right we've had different designers stylists influencers boutique
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owners businesses and today we have a very special guest that's with us like
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one of my close friends I've known her forever but before we go there we have to give some very special love like I
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feel like we are growing up right we have a sponsor for our Facebook Live series like they love the messaging that
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actually is kicking off their micro grant loan micro grant series and
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they're hooking up three small businesses each month with $1,000 in
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credits to fiber now for many of you guys if you're anything like me like the way that the world has changed you still
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so make sure you check the link that gives you all the information from the application to win $1,000 so three
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winners each month dude so you can enter for this month can enter for next month and maybe the next month after okay
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$1,000 in credits is a lot you could do a whole lot of good work over on Fiverr
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so anyways I had to get that out the way so our special guest I've known her I want I want to save in
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like eight or nine years maybe longer but we know her or we have actively
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dubbed her the Naomi as plus she's got a walk she has been she was the plus size
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winner of Project Runway the model she was the model winner she has like
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literally beauty runways Bridal lingerie
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like this model everyone knows especially just by first name so I want
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you guys to do me a favor as you're tuning in if you have questions drop your questions if you have comments if
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you have things you want to know as we're asking and interviewing drop them also let us know where you're tuning in
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from because we love to have that information in that conversation going but do me a favor let's welcome Miss
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lares cross hello leiris hello how are you I'm good thank you so much for
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joining us thank you for such a beautiful intro I appreciate it I mean
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girl 100 like we we have we have gone
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there right like we've been around like for years it feels like I mean it is yours
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it's been a minute it's been a minute uh-huh well I have to say first of all
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congratulations on all your successes because you keep on finding ways to level up even as we're going through
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this I guess you know with the Rona here you're still booking gigs you're still
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working you're still like innovating you have a book you do coaching like girl
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talk to us a little bit how about have you got started because that will that's a story that's on this stuff so tell us
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how you got started oh my gosh well pretty much I'm originally from Baltimore Maryland and I
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grew up with a I would say innate love for modeling as a little girl my dad was
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running for Congress and he had target for coming out to our house to
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shoot campaign I'm sure and he took pictures of my dad taking pictures of us
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at the family and then said you mind if I take some extra pictures of your younger daughter they said okay cool he
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comes back in a couple weeks yes his big like 8 by 10 picture of me sitting in my dad's big chair and he's
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like she's really photogenic and should really get her in his money so that was
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the seed that was planted and I just always believed that I could do it and
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so you know time passed so I'm doing like local mall fashion shows and stuff
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like that and there was a convention that came to down a model to mention and they invited me to their masks you
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mention I go to the master mention they have all the top agencies in the country
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there and they walk the runway they show
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two pictures of yourself and then at the end that agency gives you callbacks if they're interested so I
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got callbacks from two agencies that are no longer around but also Elite models
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and Seventeen magazine so you know as a girl in high school I was getting Seventeen magazine I was subscribed to
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it so it felt really good but being a year-round athlete as well guess what
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they wanted me to lose weight and I'm like lose weight where what are you talking about I got muscle this is
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muscle Drive unaware exactly exactly so that was my junior year I try to do
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the extra workouts and starvation thing but if you follow me on Instagram
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you know I'm a big foodie so that didn't last but for so long but I did lose some
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weight I went back to the convention my senior year and I got even less callbacks so I graduated high school and
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I was all in the world to go to college but something told me to move to New York to pursue my dreams of modeling and
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I spoke to my parents and said something's telling me I just need to go
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I don't want to say what shut up and thank God I had a father who
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was an entrepreneur and he saw something in me and he didn't want me to say what
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it coulda shoulda so it will give you a year for you to test this out and see what happens
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and I ended up moving to New York that Christmas day of that year and I went to
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the agencies as soon as they opened up after New Year's the first agency that I want you for their open call told me I
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was really beautiful but they needed me to lose weight and I'm thinking well I'm just up here trying to find a commercial
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agent you know whatever so then something told me to reach back out to
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the people from the models convention I did I went to their offices pictures of
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me took my measurements they told me they were gonna send me to a agency that had women that looked like me and I said
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okay whatever that meant and they ended up sending me to Illumina models and to
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their plus division I didn't know that plus mildly exists it but when I got
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there and I saw the women's comp cards on the board and so wow that you look like you know beautiful models for more
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meat on their bones so if this is where I have to be to make my dreams come true so be it and I'm glad I did now I will
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have to say I don't know if you guys caught that but she mentioned how she took that leap of faith and just jumped
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into it now a lot of times we have all these ideas we have all these goals I mean how like for many people in this
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time they're pivoting and there is having to adjust and oftentimes we have ideas or we have visions or we have
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goals and they sit in this one space of like I want to do this and it never
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manifest into anything else like it just sits there like so for any of you guys who have like these goals and dreams and
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ideas that you want to do like take a take a note out of lares his book she took that leap and she also surrounded
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herself with people who believed in their vision to help encourage her
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okay because that encouraged me because there are some dream killers around oh yeah I actually I talked about that in
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my book about how of the posture like models our posture is important how
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where our bodies are aligned but who are you on lines in your life who is it well it's the passion of the people in your
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life and how those people as far as networking your network are of people
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artists are supposed to help raise you up they're supposed to lift you up especially in the fields that we work in
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bring us what do they found network is your net were these denials people that
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say I see you I got you you can do this don't give up you need those people in
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your corner to keep that that posture I realize it makes it straight I think that that posture like that posture in
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your life get it yes okay okay so fast for because you have modeled not only
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work have you acted but you have modeled for some names girl like real quick-like
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let them know why we call you the Naomi of quest like go ahead and drop some some things that folks may recognize you
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in lol I became the first one of the first quest model winners to one of the
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first plus models to win the model portion of Project Runway I also uh
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let's see I also have done campaigns for Lane Brian actually sword I have walked
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runways for full figured Fashion Week for I was the first black plus model to
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walk for Barcelona Bridal Fashion Week which is the highest that you're going to get in the bridal market
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I am also currently the spokesperson for Maggie Sottero designs which is a
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rivalry that makes dresses for every love story from sizes 2 to 28 so there's been so
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many things that I've been able to accomplish also another thing figured Fashion Week models a year a couple
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years ago so literally the list keeps going on and on that was 2017 yep get it
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well congratulations and thank you didn't you do something I feel like you
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did campaigns I got out like a throwback campaign it's like older like in your
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you've done some celebrity campaigns I feel like or you did something with a celebrity really I've done a lot of
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stuff and I almost forget your resume is
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girl so okay we talked a little bit about your resume that's totally fine sis like I know because we talk often
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you shared with me that you have a new initiative as a model but you are a
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businesswoman and you will look new approach things very strategically from a business perspective and you have
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created an initiative with some other folks can you talk to us a little bit about this initiative and what it's
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about well I am a part of a collective of models who it's a black model leg
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initiative called models for change now and I'm so glad to be a part and support
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them they're kicking off a challenge today with the hashtag is my black model
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lights and when we speak to black model sex everybody that's male/female trans
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everybody so we want to be able to get those stories out there because it's
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important for people to understand what we go through in this industry it amazes
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me how some Caucasian people are so
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surprised because of some of the things that are going on in our world things that are
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have gone on in the entertainment from fashion to music and they just thought
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that everything was okay and it hasn't been right and even then what influences
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you and I both know we've talked about these things about their I remember can I tell you can I tell you one part I
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remember on a shoot like they didn't have any foundation for any black women
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they didn't have any they didn't have anything for my eyebrows the guy tried
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to use a black eyeliner for my eyebrows and stopping to me before it's like it
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was the most humiliating scene because I was like what is going on like why don't what do you mean you don't have you have
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pictures of our faces and you know what we look like why weren't you prepared like it yeah
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and then you have to suck it up because then you don't want to turn to like the whole angry black chick right right
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that's been one of the things and I think it's surprising because some of
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these agents and magazine editors feel like I never knew that and I think it's
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because black models know that there has been so much tokenism whether it's
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straight size or plus-size within our industry that they're like well let me
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be glad that I have this one spot that's open a great black model I don't want to
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speak and mess it up because many times I have sat in the makeup chair known
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that I am literally looking like a clown but you don't want to rock the boat
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too much because you don't want them to say oh gosh she's just always complaining she's never satisfied with
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the makeup she's never satisfied with the hair and this is the first time I'm
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going as long as I've been alive where I ain't felt so free to talk about race where I
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have felt so free to talk about my journey as a model I have spoken up for years about what we go through as far as
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black models as far as tokenism as far as black plus models not kidding no
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rightful amount of opportunities within our industry to try to make the same amount of money to be on the same
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campaigns I've spoken about it tirelessly and I hate to say I've had a lot of the black models follow me the
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Emmys thank you so much I love it and then I go to their page and I'm like well why didn't you share the article on Facebook
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why don't you tweet about it why don't you share this tweet they've been so
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scared just to share a article with somebody else so out for them mm-hmm
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that's how much fear they felt and this is why I've talked tired even in my
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mother kids just to let the new generation of models know that you and
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your model artists you and your modeling agent arts team your partnership it's not a dictatorship to you you're able to
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do you just want to do I think so so many young women come into our industry and make it stick I'm into whatever my
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agent says you know I'm just gonna do it's almost like they take a back seat
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to their own career and I can I'm reckon oh you need to stand in the power of who
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you are you need to make wise counsel of choice of course you took your wise
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counsel but you are still in the driving seat of your life you were still in the privacy of your career but this is the
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first time that we as black models have been able to speak out so freely about
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the things we go through with our hair with our make up the tokenism not being
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invited to castings just there's so many things that go on and it's about to come
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out when you check the hashtag my black model like this month there's gonna be going
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hand sharing their stories sharing their truth because people need to empathize and understand what we've been going
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through the gears so shout out to my collective and I will say that it's even
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more even more interesting given that we were both featured in the Style caster
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article this style caster article that recognizes you know have recognized us
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both for being kind of leaders of change in the Plus space you know recognizing
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black women in the plus space who have helped usher it forward and so it's like
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you know different publications and the industry is starting to recognize like women of color helped move plus-sized
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fashion forward but we're still fighting yes just sometimes for them everyday
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recognition yeah we I mean you know I
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had a certain Twitter battle with a certain person towards the end of last
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year and she was just saying she said where's and I'm like Hello wait and you
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didn't even have to say because everyone else jumped in and was like she's right there and you're like I don't know I
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don't know who that is and we're like but but but I realize it's because and this is what I was
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trying to get to her because we are put at such a
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disadvantage within our industry we don't get the same platforms campaign
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opportunity to shine if I'm not getting booked as much I don't have the same
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amount of money to spend on the publicist who can blow up my situation
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in various company that is a major company it's not even if they're gonna
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go with a white bus model for me how am I gonna get that major makeup campaign
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great or do this or do that right you don't even know about me such a bigger broader scale on an on the
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mainstream level this is what we're trying to get out there we just want to save opportunities as everyone else and
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we we're sick of the toe penis we're sick of it just being one of us it's so
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many times I work on sets and I am the only black person there and I'm not just
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talking about this black model on the back end to the production you don't
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have a black hair person makeup production assistant photographer shoot
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producer nobody I am the only black person there that's a problem and that
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has to change and this is why I'm excited that the collective models for
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change is going to be speaking out about that and really pushing for a change for
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black models and you and I also talked about how a lot of times especially with
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well I see it in the straight size too you know there's only been two types
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that are really show we have the ethnically ambiguous black girl and then we have that African African s black
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girl and we're like who's that where's the model that looks like Marie where's
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the model that looks like Liris where's the model that looks like jasmine where's the model that looks like reality you know just the
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african-american girl she wants to be recognized too we want all of our sisters shine because
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that's the beauty of blackness we have somebody who who is like skin they may have straighter hair we also have
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someone who may have a bald head or a low-cut and has great cheekbones and
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African features but we want to be able to show the myriad of colors the beauty of us and that is it's just time for
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change now now so everybody out there in facebook
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land please go follow on Instagram and on Facebook models for change
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and if your model who is watching this simulcast right now you need to go to
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the page and get all the information on the my black model life hashtag social
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media challenge and be a part let your voice be heard we want all these different companies and brands to see
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our story so they can know what they've been doing wrong but also build a
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certain level of compassion so they can really create the change that we want to see now I'm gonna actually take it back
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a little bit and what you've just shared cuz you just gave us so many gems and so many nuggets you spoke to the newer
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models you reference the newer models so for you if you guys don't really if you guys are just jumping in this is our
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speaking of curves face book series where we interview very small business owners influencers leaders in the
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plus-size space right so we're trying to learn different ways to support to help champion and to help uplift our small
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businesses so they can they can continue like strong throughout this the rona and
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I can make it confidently on the other side so yes we have special guest lives
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cross super uber model are not only us plus great like don't get it twisted we
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have her here we're talking about a little bit about all of them all these different things about Liris about the
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business of modeling the business of being a black model a black plus-size model and you mentioned your model book
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Karen's your mom boot camps and and talking about the education that's needed for these upcoming models now not
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only do you have a boot camp but strategically placed behind you you have your book I do make the world your
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runway so can you speak to why the education part is so important for you
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to make sure you give back and kind of speak to you someone like the importance of giving back and helping mentor other
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people well we've heard it a million times education is power and it's the
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truth when you get educated about the modeling industry it helps to put you a few steps
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ahead of the people who are learning it as they go not only that it empowers you
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gives it give you a second level of confidence when you know the facts when you know the business when you're able
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to navigate a little bit better it helps you to avoid pitfalls why fall
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to a scam why fall into a bad contract when you can really study and get the
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education from somebody like me and there are a lot of people who teach model classes but the thing about me is
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I been modeling in this business for over a decade so I have and I'm still
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model let's be clear about that so I tried and true and I actually know the
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business I wanted to create my life of a working model boot camp you can find us
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here on Facebook as well because I wanted to give tools to the next generation of models no matter
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their age no matter their size no matter their race no matter their gender I wanted to educate the most information
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to avoid things that I could have fell into or did fall into mmm-hmm and I
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wanted them to get quality information from quality quality business
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professionals within our industry and that's a key right that's key right now
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because everybody has opinions everyone can share what they think but there's a whole business operation in this world
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so just starting off because someone said you're pretty is one thing but
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understanding the business of pretty in the whole other yes yes yes and like yes
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and I appreciate that you have these classes and these courses often times I'm always getting asked and you've
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contributed articles to our site before because people keep asking me oh my girl I don't know you need to go and follow
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her give me the phone you take a class like because I'm not I'm not in the modeling space that's not
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my name we made feature models with me you know talk about like you know the importance
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of this model but when it comes to like the profession and how to get started
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out on that space that's not that's not my calling so I happily pass the mic
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over to you thank you and I'm glad that you do and the thing I love is I've had
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models who have come to my mother we can't prove gone into sign with major agencies walk in major runway shows and
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that makes me feel good I almost called them like all up who come to my model
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who can't no matter what age they are they like my mild Rijn and to see you
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know to watch different ones grow and flourish within the industry has been inspiring some still modeling some not
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modeling and but they've been saying they still said you know what you gave
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me tools to still navigate life and
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that's pretty much what my book is about it's taking model events and lessons
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from my life and expounding upon them and almost like a life coach way so it's
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make the world your runway type model secrets for everyday confidence and success the whole word is written by Tim
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Gunn formerly a project runway now of making the cut and it's available on
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Amazon worldwide if you would like a signed copy you have to go to Lyra see calm it's a little bit more for the
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signed copy but it's not you can local sort of Amazon and this I tell people
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this is not a book that I have to push on you this is a book that if you want a
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deep in mindset if you want to help
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deepen yourself as far as in your purpose renew your mindset if you want
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to you know get tips to look and feel like the model this is the book for you
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but this isn't for you to be your best lyrics to be a copycat of lyrics this is
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the manual to help you to be the best you alright to help you to be the best
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you mentally physically and spiritually because it all plays a part there are
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different points in the book where I talk about your how your presence is important how your posture is important
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how standing in your power is important how prayer is is important because guess
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what as a model we are beat up mentally and emotionally so much because of all
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the knows that we go through that prayer is my stabilizer it's that thing that centers me and brings me back it gives
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me strength and that's not something that I just use that I can just use
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that's what anybody can use out there standing in your power is important because I stand in my power at the end
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of the runway or when I'm in a photo shoot in front of the camera but how do you stand in your power when you're
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walking across the graduation stage when you're walking into that interview for the first time after you just got your
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college degree when you're going on that first stage when you're walking down the aisle as a bride you should be standing
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in your power so I explore all these things in the book and like I said go
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get it so you can be your best you I mean hello so there's and so for you
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that you have a path that is very visibly business and I speak to you and
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I call to the business elements because you present like the evolution of the
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best you know the business part that is help leverage and give you that like you know stronger platform for you to stand
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on and you've really understood and you nurturing those elements um how has it
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been kind of got weathering the the road right now like how have you been weathering it as a business owner well
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I'm gonna say this it just I felt it
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gave me a chance to slow down organize but also get creative
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I started different lines of my t-shirt line I also sold more books I did a I
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did my life of a working model bootcamp for free online through Instagram for a
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week I also had a lyrics motivates me
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because a lot of people say I breathe motivation and inspiration so I have another hashtag called lyrics motivates
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and I would have along motivational speakers to help speak and give inspiration and motivation where people
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are feeling so lost and now to me it just made me more creative it made me
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learn it helped me to start to prepare for the next wave of where I'm going I
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call it a pivot we've had to pivot we've pivoted and adjusted and shift done so
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yeah things slowed down but for some reason I found myself even busier I'm like I lose here I'm busier yeah I mean
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I'm literally out of my apartment and changed it around you know I need to
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change my apartment that I needed to be soup here I'm a little shoot so I bought
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my own equipment to create my own studio within mine come on come through with the innovation I mean we have to you
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know it's like as an entrepreneur as a business owner like it's almost kind of built in us to seek out solutions and to
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create them ourselves like you know figure the instead of waiting for something like you know as an
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entrepreneur as a business owner we finding different ways to make it happen and we can't just end and we're almost
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like control freaks mm-hmm I won't just deny that we could be we commune oh but
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we also don't want to wait we're in pace we want to do it and make it happen any
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girl I have two additional sites that I'm working on that I've started since that's like yeah we'll find out later
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but you know I have two different things that additional projects and I have like two additional projects not related to
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those sites that I'm also working on I'm like whoa you know and then it's like there's a lot going on and and it's kind
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of exciting to see like how like what's in you like I remember you saying like
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you never know how strong you are on your backs against the wall and as a business owner you know our backs are
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against the wall right now like our whole foundation has been rocked with as world pausing and you really figure out
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just like how dope you are how innovative you can be and then I found
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that I have been on it networking with more business owners especially through this series where
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they've been able to pour into me and I answer them and we're able to really connect and I feel more recharged girl
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be you felt you found new connections and that's important you thought new
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purpose and that's important I mean it's amazed me how many people have reached
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out to me for speaking gigs where I don't even have to leave my house and I
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am still getting me okay so let me do it
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he sure we don't put money won't he will and found this I mean you have given us
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so many gems and I can't believe that are gone hole 30 minutes is already up girl like this is like we have been you
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know because we can go in I know if we don't have to catch ourselves we probably be going for another 30 minutes that's just how they do it would be on
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the phone for like two hours but I wanted to thank you for being a guest and as I mentioned earlier like this
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whole series is now being brought to us by fiber and their new micro grant
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program called the shift so kind of where talk about pivots it's called this shift and is it thank you for being a
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guest I'm hooking you up with $150 of fiber credits
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thank you thank you right so we're gonna find an additional online assistant for
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some things so that will help to kick me off yeah boom so for those of you guys who aren't familiar like this series is
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being brought to us by fiber and fiber has kicked off the new the shift
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micro-grant series of micro grant program every month three winners will
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score $1,000 of fiber credits we're dropping the link in the comments cuz
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you guys definitely all my small business owners like please check out that link please apply because I mean
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$1,000 you can do a whole lot on Fiverr with $1,000 so you know why don't you
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let them know some of the services that people on Fiverr are able to offer well I mean like aren't you just great look
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at you I'm just saying like for me I can get like social media prompts like
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graphics I can get you can get content you can have website assistants if
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you're trying to like build some stuff you can build a website you can have a PR campaign they even have five a pro
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girl like for like that the uber professional folks like they've been extra vetted so you've got levels
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too right and depending on what your budget can afford you need a logo you have a business idea you try to launch
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it and you're like what the hell like you're and lyrics that go for it fiber right so I happen to use it so when they
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reach that I was like hey this is how we can help our small businesses in the
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plus space I mean I'm always looking out plus if you guys don't know I'm a bit of a nerd so stuff like this makes me
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really excited and there's any way that I can help support y'all especially my small business owners like I want to
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help you like because we all need to win but when we get off flying leer so I'm
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going to hook you up and I'll get all the information so I can get you your credits as a special thank you and for
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you guys who are watching we'll be back on Tuesday next week we do our speaking
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of curves live every Tuesday and Thursday from 12 at 12 p.m. Eastern Standard Time it's a half an hour we talk with
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different business owners in the community and I just want to thank y'all for joining us we have
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fun did we have fun Maris yes yes and everyone please make sure you follow me
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on instagram and twitter at Lyra c which is l ir is c follow me on facebook under
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lyrics cross that's iris wanna l and cross with EE at the end and please make
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sure you go follow the models for change now models for change now on Facebook
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models for change now on Instagram it's about to go down and get my book the
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world your runway on Amazon today and if you guys make sure because if she gave you some gems and you've got some homies
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that you know need to hear make sure you share this at this Facebook live so that they can send it they could see it and
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they can take some of the gems too because like however we can support lyrics and her endeavors moving forward
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like it's just one it's like another brick that we're building to help support the business that I'm the
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plus-size business world okay yes and and also like life of a working model
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boot camp on Facebook that's the Facebook page from our model boot camp because we're talking about small
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business yes means yes alright well thank you guys so much for joining us thank you again Liris and you guys we'll
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catch you next week bye [Music]
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